Episode 82: Strong Deals, Soft Data – CRE’s Cautious Optimism Tested

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Episode 82: Strong Deals, Soft Data – CRE’s Cautious Optimism Tested

January 30, 2026 2 mins

Wall Street is celebrating new highs, lenders are open for business, and CRE transaction volume, especially in multifamily, is leading the pack. So why does the market feel so… uneasy?

In this week’s episode, Manus Clancy and Dianne Crocker dig into what may be the paradox of the moment: a “K-shaped” economy that’s becoming even more extreme in a market full of contradictions. On one side, equity markets continue to set new records. On the other, consumer confidence has sunk to a 12-year low, reflecting softer job growth, high prices, and growing unease. Yet CREFC’s Lending Sentiment Index just hit a new high in Q4, signaling that capital markets are “open for business.” At the same time, risks are building. Manus Clancy flags tightening risk premiums in lending and growing concerns around yen volatility and the potential unwinding of the yen carry trade, a technical but powerful force that could reprice risk quickly if conditions shift.

On the transactions front, 2025 ended on a strong note. In this week’s LightBox Data Dive, listeners learn which five cities accounted for nearly one-quarter of all multifamily deals in December. The episode rounds out with a look at the week’s biggest deals—from California’s ongoing office reset and an office-to-Costco conversion to rising community pushback that could slow even the red-hot data center sector. The conversation wraps with a Slice of Life that turns a snowy walkway into a surprisingly sharp metaphor for underwater CRE loans coming due.

Strong CRE momentum, soft consumer confidence, and a close watch on the signals that don’t always make the headlines. Tune in for context, perspective, and what it could mean in the months ahead.

00:50 Economic Disparities and Consumer Sentiment
05:54 Stock Market Paradox and Lending Concerns
12:34 Yen Volatility and Market Risks
16:44 Multifamily Market Insights
20:27 Office Market Trends in California
27:11 Retail and Data Center Developments

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